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LUOA meets with Mayor to discuss SLU Up-Zone
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Rezone.
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Vancouver style skinny residential towers would be great for SLU. I would much prefer tall skinny towers to more full block Mirabella style development. and LUOA... it's Capit'o'l Hill |
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January 26, 2009
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Diverse Design
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I agree with 'cheesecake'. Seattle should start taking notes from our northern and southern metropolitan neighbors. Vancouver executes a livable urban core with diverse and interesting architecture--and so does Portland. Let's hold developers accountable for putting up ugly buildings and help them see what people in Seattle appreciate. Slog had and interesting blog entry with this tune: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2009/01/22/enough_ |
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mlloyd
January 27, 2009
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Thanks for the wave
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Glad to contribute to The Southlake. mlloyd, exactly, wouldn't it be amazing if we could design South Lake Union like the Pearl District in Portland? http://www.explorethepearl.com/pearl-map Thanks for the spelling correction, cheesecake. |
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January 27, 2009
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RE: Thanks for the wave
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That's exactly what I was thinking, Kevin. :) The thing I like most about the Pearl District is that there's a mix of the old and the new. After talking with others living in the neighborhood, I get the feeling that moving SLU in the Pearl District direction is the general hope for most people. Let's hope that the new zoning guidelines help accomplish this and not create another 'Belltown' or a 'Redmond Campus'. Good luck with your proposal! |
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mlloyd
January 28, 2009
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Ditto to cheescake's comment
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| Yeah, Mirabella may not be in the category of a 400' tower, but man is that thing fugly. While they may have made it livable for our new neighbors, they sure did a wallop on the rest of us, visually speaking. I would have preferred a skinny tower with some open space than to what amounts to a fortified medieval city in my backyard. | |
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January 27, 2009
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RE: Ditto to cheescake's comment
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| I was just at Mirabella for their grand opening, and I think it's great. I don't get why they are the target of the 'pin tower' camp either - is Rollins Street any better? | |
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January 27, 2009
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RE: Ditto to cheescake's comment
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| Rollins Street doesn't stand out as much because it's at the base of a hill, it's also not a full block if I'm remembering correctly. Mirabella is a full block, and it's in a much more prominent location so its much more visible and blocks a lot more views. The worst of the worst for this category though is the Metropolitan Park buildings. From Capitol Hill those things are just one massive striped wall, and it's not the height that makes them so bad, it's the width. | |
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January 27, 2009
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SELFISH Nimbys vs. the GREATER GOOD
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| Forgive me for being Mr. BLUNT here, but aren't the folks from LUOA the self serving Mirabellians that not only live in the ugliest, most massive building in Seattle ... they are also the NIMBYS that are really only concerned about preserving their own views. Check out their website and you will see what I am talking about. Wake up people, density is what will save our planet, tall and slender buildings are good, selfish preservation of views ... NOTSOMUCH! Mr. Mayor, do not get suckered by this selfish bunch of NIMBYS, listen to SLUFAN and other community leaders that have the greater good in mind over selfish view protection interests from the vantage of the gawd-awful Mirabella project [and PLEASE, change the zoning so that we dont have to look at another monstrosity like that one. | |
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JuliaStephens
January 27, 2009
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RE: SELFISH Nimbys vs. the GREATER GOOD
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JuliaStephens, forgive me for being blunt, but you don't know anything about me (as a founding director of LUOA). I'm 32 not 62. I don't live in Mirabella, or have anything to do with them. I'm a RESIDENT of the area, living on a houseboat, where I'm President of the cooperative that makes up 16 houseboats and 10 live aboard sailboats. I don't have any views to protect, and I tried to run for the 'noble' SLUFAN's board of directors. They had an opportunity to increase their residential representation on the board, and instead they did the opposite, and now only have 1 person (out of 13) on the board who actually lives in the neighborhood. We're all for density, we're just not all for creating another Belltown. You remember, that neighborhood that got upzoned with promises of amentities to come? Where is the community center in Belltown? How about the schools? The parks and green spaces? Our zoning proposal calls for: 1) No change in cascade, eastlake, westlake, and the tip of the actual south lake area. 2) Step down height from the lake, from 240' along Denny towards the lake. 3) Keeping the tallest buildings closest to the downtown core. |
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kevinmcc
January 28, 2009
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What about amenities + width limits + affordability?
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If we want to avoid being another Belltown, then amenities should be the focus here, not height restrictions. And, since several people have pointed out how obtrusive wide buildings are, why not focus on width restrictions instead? Height restrictions raise the cost of living as well. Don't we want an affordable neighborhood too? I think most of us could get behind support for amenities and support for width restrictions, but the height restriction issue is too controversial without enough benefit, if any. |
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January 28, 2009
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Must read
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There are similar discussions going on in several neighborhoods right now that are well worth checking out: 'Ugly-ass' buildings? Two hill developers respond - Capitol Hill Seattle Liz Dunn's response is 100% dead on. Those Who Opposed Landmark Status For The Ballard Denny's, Accept Your Punishment - hugeasscity Can't help but notice some striking similarities to a certain project that was mentioned here. |
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Comment by
rick.s
January 30, 2009
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